Musician, author, educator, and music industry consultant Bobby Borg talks with Maurizio Otto De Togni to compare Avid's Pro Tools software with Apple's Logic Pro based on price, usability, and compatibility. Excerpted from the video, 'Pro Tools Versus Logic? Which Home Recording Software is Better?'
Bobby Borg: The topic for my discussion today is Pro Tools versus Logic, and we'll break that down into three areas:
Logic Pro gives you the kind of mixing and mastering gear you'd find in a professional recording studio — from a first-class, automation-enabled mixing console to pristine-sounding EQ, limiter, and compression plug-ins. Take control and easily navigate projects of any size — from your demo track to an orchestral film score multitrack. Feb 07, 2018 The great news is that Logic is fantastic for recording. The design and workflow makes recording about as hard as checking off items on your to-do list. And even when do you hit a snag, Logic makes it easy to recover. This post is the first of 2 that digs into my personal recording workflow.
- Price
- Learning curve, and
- Standardization
I've got Maurizio Otto De Togni with me, he's an Avid-certified Pro Tools expert instructor, an Apple-certified Logic Pro X trainer, and a music-maker and audio technologist.
So, when it comes to home recording equipment, there's still a debate as to which is the better platform, Avid's Pro Tools or Apple's Logic Pro, and here to help us settle the score is the go-to expert in Hollywood. So let's go ahead and start with price. Which of these programs is cheaper, because a lot of the independent artists out there are on tight budgets, so this is an important factor.
Maurizio De Togni: Price is crucial for everybody, whether you're working with a small or big budget. When it comes to purchase price, if you want to just own the software, at the end of the day, Logic is less expensive — and is actually it's the only option you have. When it comes to leasing or renting, that's the new-school trend for this kind of software, Logic gives you all the options: you can buy or you can lease it long-term. It's going to cost you more with Pro Tools, you can't buy it, but you can pay little-by-little — it's as low as $10 a month, I believe, with a student or academic discount. When it comes to Apple (Logic), there are no discounts, it's just one price for everybody — it's less than $20 a month.
Logic Vs Pro Tools
Bobby Borg: OK — there are more options with Pro Tools, but in the end, Pro Tools is the more expensive product.
Computer to phone picture. Maurizio De Togni: Yes. Upgrade cs6 to cc.
Bobby Borg: So, let's move on to the learning curve. Which one is easier to learn? Of course, I ask this question because a lot of the independent artists out there will be excited to get the software uploaded and get right to work. They want to start creating and they don't want to deal with headaches and tech stuff.
Maurizio De Togni: The learning curves, as I like to say to my clients and students and anyone I'm coaching/mentoring, are on opposite ends of the spectrum. When it comes to Logic, you can upload to the computer and in an hour or so, you can play around with it and get things out of it. Of course, you might want some formal training, but you can move around relatively quickly at the very beginning. Then, of course, as you want to go deeper, get more professional, it gets more challenging and more complicated.
When it comes to Pro Tools, it's the opposite. You upload the software and then after an hour, a day, a week, you're still at square one. It's a story I hear from all my clients and students: you can't start using it without formal training. There's a lot of pain, it's like walking through the woods and dealing with mosquitos and you don't know where you're going, but you continue day after day and then you emerge on this beautiful beach. This paradise is your reward — it's like a long-term relationship. You get married with Pro Tools, Logic is an easy-going guy, you can get along with easily, even if it's for one night.
Bobby Borg: OK, so the last point is standardization. Which software is going to be easier to communicate with and speak with the rest of the world, you know with other producers with other industry professionals? I'll make an analogy with word processing programs… when it comes to Microsoft Word compared to something like iWorks' Pages, I'd say Pages is much easier to use and manipulate, but when you go to intern or when you go to work, businesses are more likely going to ask you to understand and use Word, so it behooves you to know how to use it. Is it similar to what we're talking about Pro Tools and Logic?
Maurizio De Togni: Very similar. I would say Apple's Logic is like the iWork Pages software and Pro Tools is the Microsoft Word in this analogy. In terms of cross-platform compatibility, Pro Tools works on a Mac, Apple, PC, it doesn't matter. Logic only works on a Mac, which might be a limitation for some people. And in the end it's a matter of, as you said, which is the most spoken language? And we could even throw in another competitor, Ableton Live. So let's consider English, Spanish, and Chinese languages. In business, you can go pretty far knowing any of these languages, but once you know English, especially in the Americas, you can't go wrong. At the end of the day, Pro Tools is your main language — no offense to the others.
Bobby Borg: No, of course not. It just makes it makes sense. If you're going to communicate broadly, Pro Tools is the more universal choice. You made a great comparison when we spoke on the phone the other day. You said, if we were comparing a Lamborghini and a Mercedes, we might say the Lamborghini is a more sophisticated, better car, but it's also not the most practical choice for your day-to-day driving. So, in this example, Pro Tools might be more advanced and more sophisticated, but for the independent artists out there, it may not be the most practical choice.
I've got Maurizio Otto De Togni with me, he's an Avid-certified Pro Tools expert instructor, an Apple-certified Logic Pro X trainer, and a music-maker and audio technologist.
So, when it comes to home recording equipment, there's still a debate as to which is the better platform, Avid's Pro Tools or Apple's Logic Pro, and here to help us settle the score is the go-to expert in Hollywood. So let's go ahead and start with price. Which of these programs is cheaper, because a lot of the independent artists out there are on tight budgets, so this is an important factor.
Maurizio De Togni: Price is crucial for everybody, whether you're working with a small or big budget. When it comes to purchase price, if you want to just own the software, at the end of the day, Logic is less expensive — and is actually it's the only option you have. When it comes to leasing or renting, that's the new-school trend for this kind of software, Logic gives you all the options: you can buy or you can lease it long-term. It's going to cost you more with Pro Tools, you can't buy it, but you can pay little-by-little — it's as low as $10 a month, I believe, with a student or academic discount. When it comes to Apple (Logic), there are no discounts, it's just one price for everybody — it's less than $20 a month.
Logic Vs Pro Tools
Bobby Borg: OK — there are more options with Pro Tools, but in the end, Pro Tools is the more expensive product.
Computer to phone picture. Maurizio De Togni: Yes. Upgrade cs6 to cc.
Bobby Borg: So, let's move on to the learning curve. Which one is easier to learn? Of course, I ask this question because a lot of the independent artists out there will be excited to get the software uploaded and get right to work. They want to start creating and they don't want to deal with headaches and tech stuff.
Maurizio De Togni: The learning curves, as I like to say to my clients and students and anyone I'm coaching/mentoring, are on opposite ends of the spectrum. When it comes to Logic, you can upload to the computer and in an hour or so, you can play around with it and get things out of it. Of course, you might want some formal training, but you can move around relatively quickly at the very beginning. Then, of course, as you want to go deeper, get more professional, it gets more challenging and more complicated.
When it comes to Pro Tools, it's the opposite. You upload the software and then after an hour, a day, a week, you're still at square one. It's a story I hear from all my clients and students: you can't start using it without formal training. There's a lot of pain, it's like walking through the woods and dealing with mosquitos and you don't know where you're going, but you continue day after day and then you emerge on this beautiful beach. This paradise is your reward — it's like a long-term relationship. You get married with Pro Tools, Logic is an easy-going guy, you can get along with easily, even if it's for one night.
Bobby Borg: OK, so the last point is standardization. Which software is going to be easier to communicate with and speak with the rest of the world, you know with other producers with other industry professionals? I'll make an analogy with word processing programs… when it comes to Microsoft Word compared to something like iWorks' Pages, I'd say Pages is much easier to use and manipulate, but when you go to intern or when you go to work, businesses are more likely going to ask you to understand and use Word, so it behooves you to know how to use it. Is it similar to what we're talking about Pro Tools and Logic?
Maurizio De Togni: Very similar. I would say Apple's Logic is like the iWork Pages software and Pro Tools is the Microsoft Word in this analogy. In terms of cross-platform compatibility, Pro Tools works on a Mac, Apple, PC, it doesn't matter. Logic only works on a Mac, which might be a limitation for some people. And in the end it's a matter of, as you said, which is the most spoken language? And we could even throw in another competitor, Ableton Live. So let's consider English, Spanish, and Chinese languages. In business, you can go pretty far knowing any of these languages, but once you know English, especially in the Americas, you can't go wrong. At the end of the day, Pro Tools is your main language — no offense to the others.
Bobby Borg: No, of course not. It just makes it makes sense. If you're going to communicate broadly, Pro Tools is the more universal choice. You made a great comparison when we spoke on the phone the other day. You said, if we were comparing a Lamborghini and a Mercedes, we might say the Lamborghini is a more sophisticated, better car, but it's also not the most practical choice for your day-to-day driving. So, in this example, Pro Tools might be more advanced and more sophisticated, but for the independent artists out there, it may not be the most practical choice.
Logic Or Pro Tools For Recording Music
Maurizio De Togni: Air file system. Yeah, you're not going to go to the grocery store in a Lamborghini, I'd go with the Mercedes. And, in the end, it doesn't sound like a compromise at all because a Mercedes is still more than a decent car — so we're saying you can't go wrong.
There's lots more… watch the entire conversation!
Bobby Borg is the author of Music Marketing For The DIY Musician (Second Edition), Business Basics For Musicians (Second Edition), and The Five Star Music Makeover (published by Hal Leonard Books). Get these books at any fine online store in both physical or digital format. Learn more at www.bobbyborg.com.
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